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When Substance Abuse Hits the C-Suite
Jul 21, 2017 | The Chronicle of Higher Education
By Jack Stripling
The sordid tale of a former University of Southern California medical-school dean, who in his private life appears to have used illicit drugs and consorted with a prostitute, draws its dramatic power from age-old themes: an accomplished leader with impeccable credentials undone by human frailty. -
How do universities hire high-ranking officials? (AUDIO)
Jul 21, 2017 | 89.3 KPCC – Southern California Public Radio
By A. Martinez interviewing Jack Stripling from the Chronicle of Higher Education
Earlier this week, the LA Times published a shocking expose into the hidden life of Dr. Carmen Puliafito, the former dean of the USC medical school. -
How Many More Victims Does the Drug War Need to Claim?
Jul 20, 2017 | Before It's News
University of Southern California Medical School Dean, Rohit Varma reacted to revelations that his predecessor, Carmen Puliafito, a widely respected ophthalmologist, had regularly consumed hard drugs, by describing Puliafito’s alleged conduct as “horrible” and “despicable.” Puliafito is on leave from his position as a USC faculty member and isn’t being allowed to see patients. -
Police union reviewing hotel incident involving officer, former USC Keck medical school dean following accusations: 8 things to know
Jul 21, 2017 | Becker's Hostpital Review
By Alyssa Rege
The Pasadena (Calif.) Police Officer's Union said July 20 it is conducting a legal review of circumstances surrounding a March 2016 overdose incident allegedly witnessed by Carmen Puliafito, MD, former dean of Los Angeles-based USC Keck School of Medicine, the Los Angeles Times reports. -
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Let's talk about what's going on with carmen puliafito the good doctor. when we first met carmen puliafito tell he was the head of the keck school of medicine at USC.
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When Substance Abuse Hits the C-Suite
Jul 21, 2017 | The Chronicle of Higher Education
By Jack Stripling
The sordid tale of a former University of Southern California medical-school dean, who in his private life appears to have used illicit drugs and consorted with a prostitute, draws its dramatic power from age-old themes: an accomplished leader with impeccable credentials undone by human frailty.
Higher education has seen this movie before, but seldom in such graphic depiction. A Los Angeles Times investigation of Carmen A. Puliafito, former dean of the Keck School of Medicine, describes a double life that began to unravel last year, when the police were called to a hotel room in Pasadena, Calif., to treat a 21-year-old woman who had overdosed in his company. Dr. Puliafito, a 66-year-old ophthalmologist, resigned from his administrative position three weeks after the incident, in the middle of the spring term, the Times reported.
The newspaper’s investigation, published on Monday, shines a light on seldom-discussed problems of alcohol and substance abuse in higher-education administration. It is a taboo topic that, if mentioned at all, confines itself to mostly private conversations among academic leaders and trustees. Every so often, however, these cases spill out into public view, bringing with them individual and institutional embarrassment, and raising tough questions about how to balance compassion and accountability for the people involved.
At Eastern Michigan University in 2012 the board’s leadership approached Susan W. Martin, who was then president, about her behavior while under the influence of alcohol. Roy E. Wilbanks, who was then chairman of the Board of Regents, recalls the conversation as awkward and intense, but necessary. The meeting followed a public incident in Washington, D.C., where the president, who had been drinking, had a loud, profanity-laced argument with an alumnus, Mr. Wilbanks said.
"It was very difficult for her," said Mr. Wilbanks, recalling the meeting, held in the university’s conference center with the president and two other board members. "It was very difficult for the university, and it was very difficult for the board. It’s not something anybody wants to handle."
The board put a letter in Ms. Martin’s personnel file that called her behavior "simply unacceptable." Following the advice of outside legal counsel, the regents stressed that she should not drive a university-supplied vehicle if she had been drinking. (Ms. Martin had previously disclosed to the board that in 2005 she had pleaded guilty to driving while impaired.)
Ms. Martin declined an interview request for this article. At the time, she apologized for the incident and pushed back against any suggestion that she had a problem with alcohol, citing as evidence the 24/7 demands of her job.
"I could not perform these duties and handle the rigors of this position if I had a serious health issue," she wrote in a letter to the regents.
The board encouraged Ms. Martin to seek treatment, Mr. Wilbanks said. It is unclear if she did so, but there were no other incidents. "She continued to work hard and do her job," he said.
The board later extended Ms. Martin’s contract, and she went on to serve as interim president of San Jose State University. She is now back at Eastern Michigan as a professor of accounting and finance.
Public Shame
Public problems with alcohol can derail administrative careers, as happened with William J. Frawley, a former president of the University of Mary Washington, in Virginia. Mr. Frawley was forced to resign, in 2007, after he was arrested twice for drunken driving in two days.
Mr. Frawley, who could not be reached for comment for this article, went on to write an opinion piece for The Washington Post detailing a tragic descent into alcohol and depression that led to his ouster. He described living through a painful media firestorm not unlike the one that Dr. Puliafito, the former Southern California dean, has endured this week.
"My story was splashed across the local and national papers and (endlessly, it seemed) on television and the radio," Mr. Frawley wrote. "I felt relentless shame."
Mr. Frawley’s column, titled "I Needed Help, Not Ostracism," made a rare public case for boards to show greater compassion for college administrators with addictions. He had pleaded, he said, for a medical leave or to be able to retain his status as a tenured professor. The board, however, insisted he sever all ties with the university.
Mary Washington’s board did not wait for Mr. Frawley’s case to wind its way through the legal system before forcing him out. But the trustees at Hillsborough Community College are taking a different tack with Kenneth H. Atwater, the Florida college’s president, who was arrested in January for driving under the influence.
Mr. Atwater, who did not respond to an interview request, refused to take a breath-analysis test when he was pulled over and he has not acknowledged guilt.
The board has said that Mr. Atwater is entitled to due process before any action can be taken regarding his employment.
"We absolutely expect more scrutiny of conduct going forward, more scrutiny of what he’s doing," said Dipa S. Shah, chairwoman of the board. "We are all hands on deck. But in terms of that one incident, that has to be handled in the courts. That is our position."
At the same time, the board wants to send a zero-tolerance message about impaired driving, said Ms. Shah, who is a lawyer.
"The DUI is something I take very, very seriously, not only as a board member but as an individual who drives on the road," she said. "My kids drive on these roads. Students at the college drive on these roads."
A Brilliant Career, Down the Drain
At Southern California, administrators have struggled to publicly condemn the behavior described in the Los Angeles Times article, while declining to acknowledge the merits of the allegations or to offer many specifics about how much high-level officials knew about Dr. Puliafito’s private life. Michael W. Quick, the provost, told faculty members in a memo on Wednesday that he understood how unsatisfying the university’s position might be to some professors.
"I know it can be frustrating," he wrote, "especially given the extent of the allegations in the present case, to not be given all the information you may want to have in order to know that the university is living up to its core values. But I think you also realize that we are prohibited from giving out confidential personnel information, which under more normal circumstances is something all of us should appreciate.
"Regardless, I want to reassure you that all along we have taken this matter very seriously, that we made what we felt were the best decisions we could make, as swiftly as could be done in a prudent and thoughtful manner, and given the information that we had at any given time."
The university did not make Mr. Quick or C.L. Max Nikias, the president, available for interviews on Thursday. Rohit Varma, the medical school’s current dean, also declined an interview.
In a meeting with faculty members on Wednesday, Dr. Varma condemned his predecessor’s alleged behavior and said he had been told nothing of it when Dr. Puliafito resigned.
"These allegations, if they are true, they are horrible and despicable," Dr. Varma, an ophthalmologist, told the group, according to the Times, which obtained a recording of the meeting. "He’s a man who had a brilliant career, all gone down the drain. I’m standing in this place where my predecessor now has this taint. … It is sad."
Drinking on the Job
Scandals of this sort invariably provoke questions about whether red flags, which might have prompted earlier intervention, had been missed or ignored. Medical students at Southern California, for example, have suggested that administrators did not respond to reports that Dr. Puliafito appeared impaired at campus events.
It is common in higher education for administrators, who are expected to raise money and attend evening events, to work in situations where alcohol is flowing. Stephen Joel Trachtenberg, president emeritus of George Washington University, says he had to learn early in his career to moderate his drinking in professional situations when others imbibed more heavily.
"You do drink," he said. "But I turn out to be a really rotten drinker; it makes me sleepy. So I limit myself to one drink. At the University of Hartford," where Mr. Trachtenberg also was president, "a lot of my stakeholders drank martinis at lunch. And I discovered if I drank more than one martini I’d have to go back and put my head on my desk and sleep."
Universities are filled with smart, accomplished people, Mr. Trachtenberg continued, and their accomplishments may mask a private struggle. Dr. Puliafito, now best known for his life’s darkest public chapter, had built a solid reputation before his downfall, brandishing degrees from Harvard University and the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School.
"I’m sure there are faculty who use drugs, and maybe vice presidents and deans," Mr. Trachtenberg said. "If they can show up at the office and do their jobs, how would you know? We’re not running a totalitarian state."
Colleges and universities put plenty of focus on alcohol and drug prevention for students, but such programming is seldom aimed at administrators or professors. Employees are informed of available treatment services, but it often ends there.
"It’s rare to see substantial efforts toward faculty and staff," said James E. Lange, incoming executive director of the Higher Education Center for Alcohol and Drug Misuse Prevention and Recovery at Ohio State University. "That’s partly because it’s the responsibility of the campus to be there for students, and they are a high-risk group."
Some scientists theorize that the same qualities that help people reach the height of their professions, as Dr. Puliafito did, are linked to a propensity for addiction. David J. Linden, a professor of neuroscience at the Johns Hopkins University, says people with a low-functioning dopamine system may overindulge because they feel pleasure less strongly. Those with that genetic variation, he says, are more likely to be risk-taking, novelty-seeking, and compulsive.
"You’ve just described Steve Jobs," said Mr. Linden, author of The Compass of Pleasure: How Our Brains Make Fatty Foods, Orgasm, Exercise, Marijuana, Generosity, Vodka, Learning, and Gambling Feel So Good (Penguin, 2011). "It’s very likely if you look not just at university presidents, but people who rise to the top of any one of a number of different professions, you find a disproportionate number of people who carry these dopamine-blunting variants, and as a result they are at a higher risk of developing addiction."
Tracy R. Zemansky, a clinical psychologist who specializes in addiction, says people in the medical professions may be particularly skilled at compartmentalizing their work and their substance-abuse problems. As a result, it may be even more challenging for them to come to terms with their disease, she says.
"When you have someone very highly educated and used to being able to figure things out, it can be more difficult to say: This is a problem, I need help," said Ms. Zemansky, who is president of the Southern California branch of the Pacific Assistance Group, which treats physicians with addiction problems. "It can be even harder, and it’s always really difficult."
For high-profile people like university administrators, a private struggle can be compounded by public shame. But that narrative can change. "Look at Betty Ford," Ms. Zemansky said. "How much more public can you be than the wife of the president? How much good has her recovery done for hundreds of thousands of people? That element of shame and secrecy does not have to be the end of the story. It can be the beginning of a whole new story."
Jack Stripling covers college leadership, particularly presidents and governing boards. Follow him on Twitter @jackstripling, or email him at jack.stripling@chronicle.com.
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How do universities hire high-ranking officials? (AUDIO)
Jul 21, 2017 | 89.3 KPCC – Southern California Public Radio
By A. Martinez interviewing Jack Stripling from the Chronicle of Higher Education
Earlier this week, the LA Times published a shocking expose into the hidden life of Dr. Carmen Puliafito, the former dean of the USC medical school.
He spent his time partying hard with drugs like meth and ecstasy, according to the Times account. And in one case, it led to the overdose of a prostitute in Pasadena hotel.
But since being hired a decade ago by USC, he also had a profound, positive impact on the school.
We spoke with Jack Stripling, senior reporter for the Chronicle of Higher Education. He's been writing about this case, and about how colleges hire high level talent.
Walk us through the steps by which a college fills in a position like a dean. Who oversees the process?
"For the most part, outside executive search firms get involved in this. . . The school is the one who is probably going to put out the job description and it is the job of the headhunter to find candidates that are both diverse and have the qualifications to meet these needs that the institution is putting forward."
How does that firm go about figuring out whether someone's personal life might be a liability on the job?
"The way this often works is you’ll have a few finalists who have put forth a references that they want you to check, and people assume that [these references] are going to say nice things about them. So what a search firm will do is check those people, but they'll also go outside of that immediate cohort. Faculty members who later have buyer's remorse about someone who gets hired in these situations will tell you that they don’t think this process necessarily get you the straight skinny on someone, and in a lot of cases, faculty members are kind of discouraged from doing their own background checks. These are very tightly controlled searches, and are often very secretive. You may have a professor who thinks he might have a lot of luck if he just calls up a buddy at the other school where the person used to be to find out the real dirt, and they are actively discouraged from doing that - I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but search firms try to keep a tight control on this process."
Are university officials always willing to trust, or distrust, the rumor mill?
"It is a difficult question in a lot of ways, because it is one thing if you have a dean whose had a DUI or been arrested, that's something that becomes part of the public record, and certainly part of the discussion before hiring happens. It is more difficult if you’re dealing with a personality or behavior issue, because in a lot of cases, with respect to people on university campuses, they hold grudges, like everybody else, and they may have disagreements about policy, and so when someone says something negative about a potential candidate it is often filtered through that lens. I do think in some cases, even when there is consistent feedback about a person in leadership that's negative, a board may ignore that because of the fact that they really are impressed with the credentials of this person."
In general, how much would you say fundraising prowess is considered by an academic institution when hiring a dean or president?
"From the dean level and up, it is a huge deal. The evidence for this story is the USC medical school this is its own universe of fundraising, and so it is imperative that this person shows an ability to do this. . . and folks in this world are expected to raise money in situations that are quasi-social, they're going to be in situations where alcohol is around, presumably not methamphetamine, but they are going to be in situations that are quasi-social, and this is part of the job, is your ability to schmooze in those situations."
In the case of the USC story, Dr. Puliafito was highly regarded as a surgeon and recognized as someone who could boost the profile of the school. But, according to the Times, he was was on record for being, at times, an explosive personality. Have you seen cases where universities are willing to take on someone who's a top performer professionally, despite red flags in their personal life?
"Yes, certainly - this personality issue you mentioned is something that I encounter all the time. We'll see a college president who ends up on the ropes with faculty, or coworkers and you’ll check back and find out that this was the case. . . A lot of times someone will get hired because the board thinks they’re an effective person, but this cloud hangs over them, and usually if there is a pattern of behavior it re-exhibits itself."
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How Many More Victims Does the Drug War Need to Claim?
Jul 20, 2017 | Before It's News
University of Southern California Medical School Dean, Rohit Varma reacted to revelations that his predecessor, Carmen Puliafito, a widely respected ophthalmologist, had regularly consumed hard drugs, by describing Puliafito’s alleged conduct as “horrible” and “despicable.” Puliafito is on leave from his position as a USC faculty member and isn’t being allowed to see patients.
It hasn’t been claimed to date that patient-care was compromised. No one is so far maintaining that Puliafito’s use of methamphetamine, ecstasy, and other drugs injured anyone under his care or that he mistreated his co-workers. There was evidently a report that someone had “overdosed in his presence” outside of work, according to the LA Times, but the report didn’t indicate that he had been responsible for the overdose or had mishandled the situation. He may also have been intoxicated at some public USC functions. If these reports are correct, they concern issues that are separate from the drug consumption that is attracting the most attention. The hand-wringing seems to have been occasioned primarily by the revelation that, on his own time, Puliafito partied enthusiastically.
Some people consume hard drugs in ways that harm themselves and those close to them. Almost four years ago, someone close to me died of a drug overdose after a history of struggles related to heroin and methamphetamine consumption. I don’t want to trivialize the risks.
But the reality is that different people’s experiences with drug consumption aren’t the same. Some people consume potentially dangerous substances while enjoying stable and productive lives.
Take William Stewart Halstead, for instance. Among the founders of American surgery, and the surgeon who introduced the hospital chart, Halstead was superb performer in the operating room. He was also a lifelong consumer of heroin, cocaine, and morphine.
Criminalizing drugs like methamphetamine denies consumers opportunities to weigh risks on their own. Subjecting consumers to criminal penalties frequently destroys their families and devastates whole communities. Criminalization dramatically raises the cost of drugs, ensuring that consumers will be more likely to become impoverished and may find it more tempting to engage in criminal activity to gain the resources needed to buy drugs. Increased prices make drug production and distribution attractive to criminal organizations.
With so much money on the table, unprincipled people can find it irresistible to use violence to secure their profits. Because the industry is criminalized, disputes are too often resolved violently. When there’s no legal avenue to resolve conflicts, force becomes an appealing alternative. Criminalization means that consumers have no legal remedies when they purchase impure products—so they’re much more likely to be injured than they would in an above-ground market. Unfortunately, criminalization persists, not least because it feeds police department budgets and provides self-righteous politicians with opportunities to signal their virtue to their constituents.
Criminalization is an awful response to drug-related problems. But criminalization also reflects and reinforces the social stigmatization of drugs in ways that yield more destructive consequences.
Puliafito’s life hasn’t always gone smoothly. He’s apparently undergone treatment related to drinking problems. But he managed to perform very successfully as an academic, administrator, and surgeon. Ophthalmology is among the hardest-to-enter medical specialties, attracting the cream of a typical medical school class. Thriving as the dean of a major medical school for a decade is, on any account, an impressive feat.
Because Puliafito consumed substances that were socially disfavored and, even worse, illegal, he’s been singled out for censure, suspended from his job, And his life is in a shambles—not because of his drug consumption, but because of the reaction it’s elicited.
USC is legally free to employ faculty members on whatever terms it likes within the constraints of their contracts. But the issue here is whether the insane and counterproductive drug war should be allowed to end the career of a distinguished scholar and practitioner.
Activists have repeatedly noted the horrible (here’s a context in which being horrified actually makes sense) effects of the drug war on vulnerable communities. Unfortunately, those communities lack the political muscle to push back against the entrenched interests that benefit from keeping the drug war in place.
Will the mistreatment of an upper-middle-class white male professional like Puliafito serve as a wake-up call, at least for those who aren’t profiting from the drug war? We can only hope pundits and policymakers will ask themselves whether stigmatizing and criminalizing Puliafito’s behavior—apparently harmful, at most, only to himself—is really wise or fair.
It’s not too late for USC to acknowledge that Puliafito’s record doesn’t warrant his suspension or his successor’s expressions of outrage. And it’s not too late to focus the shock and horror where they really belong—on the unjust war on drugs.
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Jul 21, 2017 | Becker's Hostpital Review
By Alyssa Rege
The Pasadena (Calif.) Police Officer's Union said July 20 it is conducting a legal review of circumstances surrounding a March 2016 overdose incident allegedly witnessed by Carmen Puliafito, MD, former dean of Los Angeles-based USC Keck School of Medicine, the Los Angeles Times reports.
Here are eight things to know about the case.
1. Police, including Officer Alfonso Garcia, reportedly responded to a call involving an overdose incident at the Hotel Constance in Pasadena March 4, 2016.
2. In an interview with the Times, Sarah Warren, the individual who overdosed, said she "took too much GHB" — a drug commonly used in instances of date-rape that reportedly provides a euphoric effect in smaller doses. Ms. Warren, now 22, said the drug left her "completely incapacitated." She claimed she woke up in the hospital six hours after the overdose and was subsequently picked up by Dr. Puliafito, now 66. After picking her up, Ms. Warren said the two "went back to the hotel and got another room and continued the party," according to the report.
3. After responding to the overdose call, police allegedly confiscated "little more than a gram of meth" in the hotel room. No arrests were made and Ms. Warren said police never interviewed her about the incident.
4. Mr. Garcia allegedly did not file a required report on the incident until three months after it occurred, the report states. A police spokesperson said last year Mr. Garcia's failure to file a report constituted a "training issue." A spokesperson for Pasadena told the publication July 20 Mr. Garcia was disciplined for the action, but did not specify what his discipline was.
5. A witness who spoke to the Times on a condition of anonymity said they filed a complaint with the city about three weeks after the hotel incident, asking city officials to investigate Dr. Puliafito and the police's handling of the investigation, according to a copy of the complaint obtained by the Times. The witness called USC President C.L. Max Nikias, PhD, and told two university employees about Dr. Puliafito's alleged role in the incident.
6. Dr. Puliafito's alleged involvement in the incident and association with drug misusers and criminals surfaced after the Times published a report July 17. The same day, USC officials said Dr. Puliafito was no longer seeing patients and was on leave from his faculty position at the university.
7. USC Keck School of Medicine Dean Rohit Varma, MD, spoke to students about the accusations Wednesday, stating Dr. Puliafito's conduct "is the subject of several internal investigations," according to the report.
8. The Medical Board of California also said it is investigating the allegations against Dr. Puliafito.
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Let's talk about what's going on with carmen puliafito the good doctor. when we first met carmen puliafito tell he was the head of the keck school of medicine at USC. A man very important at the university of man bringing in over a billion dollars in his ten year tenure there. Did all did you mention the hot rails with hookers? first well while he was doing an yeoman's job a fund raising for USC. of which is all important he was also with hookers in various different cities pasadena huntington beach vegas do and now hot rails. He witnessed a young woman, who you could describe it is also a twenty one year old hooker. if you watch for overdose in march of twenty sixteen at a hotel room in pasadena and he resigned his position as dean of the keck school of medicine three weeks after the overdose but no one at least not outside the hallowed halls of trojanville knew anything about the overdose then. or did they well u. s. c. kept the guy on the faculty. plausible deniability is everything do you think u. s. c. isn't connected to all the police departments in the surrounding areas no no. Sarah warren was a twenty one year old hooker who survived after she was raw rushed to the hospital and as we told you earlier this week was then picked up by Carmen Puliafito about six hours after he dropped her off in the first place was he was taken a hospital the first place picked her up they were back to the hotel and lay down a few more hot rails i don't remember if you lay down hot rails because i think the smoke on i think that's what happens he smokes a meth and you don't lay it down on a surface and i'll say but so we have several people who know how to do heart rails and were very upset with us so we had no knowledge well the question is how does this happen how to the police get called paramedics you called to a hotel room when a twenty one year old girl has older overdosed on meth amphetamine with a sixty six year old guy pretty high profile i might add sitting in the room a doctor although an ophthalmologist how does all of that go down nobody hears about it for one thing and no charges are brought for a second officer alfonso garcia apparently did not write the required reports on the overdose until three months after the incident and even then it was only after the l. a. times started sniffing around asking questions about what happened right it was not going to be written up at all ever they were going to sweep this thing under the rug why because this guy brings in way too much money for u. s. c. now i don't know what they what i don't know if garcia if i this is how i imagine of playing out puliafito says to officer garcia hey you don't you go right in this up i'm a big freakin deal in this town and the big deal in this town who's your boss commander who is that gimme a name and then a phone call is made and the rug gets pulled up and pasadena police get out their broom and they sweep of the whole meth episode under the rug be in i don't know what exchanged hands if anything or if there was a favor to be name later but somebody made this go away that the girl sarah by the way is now in drug treatment she's been there since november sister she is no longer any conflict with police veto but that she and a doctor police veto a din partying at the hotel for a couple of days she says that she took too much g. h. b. date rape drug which it doesn't necessarily mean that he was trying to do anything to her sometimes taken lower doses for the for the euphoria that it would give you but that this do whatever she took left her completely incapacitated they they also and this was one of his main stumbling blocks they also recorded everything they had all kinds of videos photos together talked about talked about on video his use of drugs showed on video using drugs apparently unless for some reason they were fake drugs which makes no sense but why would the officer not ride it out the president of the pasadena police officers association said that they have attorneys looking at this looking at the circumstances surrounding the overdose. A police spokeswoman said that the failure to file the report was simply a training issue and that he was disciplined the officer. The city manager in pasadena said that there are many questions at a been raised by the l. a. times reports and it is a releases city i have made a public commitment to review the facts and circumstances involving city personnel but that's it. Remember when he resigned in march of last year he told everybody was because he wanted to pursue a biotech job, not because he wanted to go smoke meth with hookers. He was making way too much at u. s. c. for him to leave for any reason other than they wanted this to go away. i know but here's here's my question is did this off or alfonso garcia had any clue who this guy once. yes i think he told him. i mean you would recognize this guy. If the responding officer to the scene had no idea, he'd let him know right away who he was and how important of a person he was in this town. just if i may if that's if that's the storyline that's that's the way it went down like I'm the dean, this cant get out. that the officer would then say say you are probably right and shouldn't recognized you..i said i think phone calls went higher up on the ladder i think officer garcia called in his superior or whoever and that the phone calls were exchanged further the ladder and i think that the president and the USC probably played a hand in making this go under the rug. This may be what would dooms is not just doctor puliafito, now this may be what dooms max nickias the president of usc because if these i mean if we have been sitting on the story for 17 months and if they knew any hint of the dean of their medical school partied with hookers and criminals . And even after he resigned he's still didappearances on behalf of usc is still making money for them He's still seeing patients at the USC offices. What's more important hookers smoking meth or bringing in money to USC? What ever the other thing is it's always not going to be as important as a bringing money into USC.
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